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Michael
Bay may be one of the greatest commercial directors because
he has directed some of the most commercially successful
movies of all-time. Bad Boys and The Rock pounded the box
office with cash and also assaulted the eyes and ears with
dizzying images and loud glossy effects. Armageddon promises
no different: a boisterous, show-offy answer to that other
meteor movie this year, that's already had a deep impact
on the box office. Bay had to pull himself from a special
effects session to talk to us in Marina Del Rey, just weeks
before his film's release. Michael Bay rough cut's Andy
Jones.
MB:
Sorry I'm late. I'm still trying to finish up this movie
we're working on.
AJ:
Do you have any concerns that this movie will play a lot
like Deep Impact?
MB: I think it's a really different story. The stories are
similar, but I think it's a really different movie. You
know, it's a totally different experience.
AJ: But are you worried that people will go to see Armageddon
on the first weekend and then say, "That was a lot like
Deep Impact?"
MB: No, because we tested it with many audiences and those
audiences had seen Deep Impact. They said they would still
see this and they felt it was totally entertaining. I think
there's a real need for movies right now.
AJ: What do you mean by that?
MB:
I don't know. I just think there haven't been a lot of fun
rides out there lately.
AJ:
But if Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich had gone ahead with
their original plans to make a movie about a comet striking
the earth...
MB:
Yeah, I went on a photo shoot and Roland was telling me
how he really wanted to do a movie like this. And I beat
him to the punch on that.
AJ: All this fascination with the end of the world. What
is causing this, the millennium?
MB: It could be the millennium, but it's a subject that
really hasn't been explored and it's a real subject. When
you talk to NASA and find out all the real facts, it's pretty
daunting -- a global-killer passed us three years ago, that
they didn't know passed us, until three days after it passed.
It got within 200,000 miles and you know, working with some
of the world's experts, you realize you are just specks
in time.
AJ:
That's scary.
MB: No, you don't get scared. But you realize that there's
not much you can do and NASA says this plan, we based some
of this plan on a real method plan, not oil drillers, but
the idea that if it was too close, they would have to split
it -- if there was a way to split it. To send it around
the Earth, but they say the only bad thing about this movie
is this plan isn't even feasible for another 30 or 40 years.
And our math is all off. If we were that close, to a rock
that size already passing the moon, we'd all be dead. You
know? Isn't there a lot of guess work involved in that too?
I mean, trying to split an asteroid... I don't know. I just
can't imagine. I don't know. The thing is, NASA says they
just have to know about it years in advance. And they only
have money to track 3 percent of the sky which Billy Bob
says in this movie.
AJ:
What kind of movies do you like to watch?
MB: I like all sorts. I'm a big Barry Levinson fan. I love
Spielberg. I like all sorts of movies. I really do. All
genres. Bad movies too.
AJ:
What's your favorite bad movie?
MB:
My favorite bad movie? Night of the Living Dead's pretty
bad. That's a good bad movie.
AJ: You got your start at Lucasfilm...
MB:
When I was 15, I worked at Lucasfilm as a librarian of all
the artwork of the Star Wars movies and The Empire Strikes
Back and so when I was 15 and a half I had my own little
desk and office and a phone. And I got Raiders of the Lost
Ark storyboards. They were these big things I got from London
and I had to catalog them. So I saw the entire movie on
storyboard frames and I told all my friends. I said, "This
movie, that Spielberg's going to do, is going to suck."
And I went to the Mann's Chinese Theater and I was blown
away.
AJ: How'd you get that job?
MB: My neighbor was the president of Lucasfilm and I asked
him for a summer job and it was a rough job. I mean, I was
with some sci-fi guy who was just, like, Mr. Invention.
It was interesting though, 'cause I got to see all the buzz
behind-the-scenes stuff. I even got to see people, who said
they were really Darth Vader, coming into the office wanting
money from George Lucas.
AJ:
Do you feel the pressure? Your movie opens in a couple of
weeks and you're still working on it...
MB:
Well, you can always work on a movie, even after it's released,
because you can only make it better. Coppola said something
very interesting. He said, "It's not what you miss, it's
what you catch." You know, you can always tweak it, you
can always make it better.... Yeah, there's pressure. This
was a long haul. I've been working on this movie for a year
and eight months.... My effects people, I've given them
until the very last minute. There are a lot of effects that
you haven't seen yet. There's some sequences in New York
that you haven't seen where we blow up Grand Central Station.
It's pretty amazing. The guy who did Titanic, Rob Legato's
doing that. Shanghai is, like, 100 percent better than what
you saw. Rob's doing that one as well.
AJ: I think my favorite part is the dog attacking the blow-up
Godzilla.
MB:
We trained the dog for three weeks...
AJ:
Really?
MB:
Really.
AJ:
Were you surprised by how disappointing Godzilla did? Do
you think Devlin and Emmerich have gotten a bum rap on that?
MB: Yeah, you know, it's tough. They had a studio that boasted,
that said, "We're going to make $90 million opening weekend,"
and that's like a bad thing to say. I mean, don't boast
before your movie opens. Because I think the public will
turn on you. So, I think there's some of that. And it's
still a successful movie. They will make their money back,
but not what they thought.
AJ:
Why do you think so many commercial directors now are able
to make the transition to feature films?
MB:
I think it started with Tony Scott, Ridley Scott and Alan
Parker. They were all commercial directors. That was, like,
the first wave. And then it stopped for quite a while. David
Fincher and myself helped open the door for a lot of people.
I personally think that there are commercial directors that
are not ready to make the jump. I think the tendency in
Hollywood has been to jump on the bandwagon. "Oh, if those
commercial directors can do it, then everyone can do it."
I just think that the door might be opening too much and
then it will close again.
AJ:
This is much harder work than making commercials.
MB:
Commercials: You're in and out. Movies: It's just day in
and day out. I mean, we work like dogs. I mean, it doesn't
look like it, but we do. I can't tell you. I've been working
seven days a week since the movie wrapped and I've been
working seven days a week since the movie started shooting.
Commercials: You know you have a mini-story to tell in 30
seconds. A movie, you have pace, characters and character
arcs, and it's just sort of a whole different deal, a whole
different medium.
AJ:
Did you know it was going to be such a long-haul when you
got involved?
MB:
I think after we pitched them we went down the elevator,
and I went, "Oh my God, how are we going to make the movie?
Where do we start?" And it was too late... Freaked me out.
It did freak me out...
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